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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2015, 12:00:00 PM »
Back on the lights, I have a question?

It's clear that the H4 is a bust, leaving the H13 as the only two filament option. Let's assume the lens differences are bulb angle and that I can shim the right (currently angled down) such that I could make a high beam on each side with the H7. When I plug the H13 in, similarly shimmed, will the filament produce both a proper high beam and a proper low beam ... hypothetically?

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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2015, 02:31:06 PM »
Sounds reasonable, assuming there are no appreciable differences in the left and right reflectors other than the slight angle difference of the bulbs.

By the way, how was that determined?
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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2015, 10:42:40 PM »
*Originally Posted by gharshman [+]
Sounds reasonable, assuming there are no appreciable differences in the left and right reflectors other than the slight angle difference of the bulbs.

By the way, how was that determined?

It hasn't been determined. It's what I think I see when I visually study the H7 bulbs and lens reflectors.

Wiring I can do. This whole bulb and illumination crap is not in my wheelhouse. I'd thought we had that part of it worked out before I built the harness. Anyway, I've got a few ideas to see if I can determine the way the lenses and bulbs actually work together. I'm back from my trip down to South Florida, so I can take a look at it in the next day or so.

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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2015, 03:23:49 PM »
The question we were working was whether the differences between the two projectors were a result of the layout of the reflector or the angle of the bulbs. I toggled/tilted the H7 bulbs while in their apertures to see if I could make a high beam pattern on the right and a low beam pattern on the left using the angles alone. I got absolutely no cooperation. (If the stock light patterns seem high, it's because the nose cone is sitting on a table and I'm powering the lights with a separate marine battery; easier to fiddle with the bulb angles.)



Bottom line, whether there’s any angle in the bulb, the light reflectors are clearly very different between the right and the left sides. If I can’t produce consistent low beams on both sides and consistent high beams on both sides, then I’m left to conclude that this the mod is a bust.

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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2015, 03:34:13 PM »
Blimey Bill I am gutted for ya. All that hard work, time and commitment looks like it is going down the tubes. :157: :125:. You must rate 10 out of 10 though for effort  :152:
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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2015, 05:43:23 PM »
Great effort Bill I'm sorry you couldn't prove my original thought wrong so it works as an asthetic for day running but bombs out for night riding  :003: maybe Kawa will pick up on this chatter and the next iteration will come with both lenses lit. You have my admiration for the effort and determination on this one  :020:

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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2015, 06:16:24 PM »
You have my admiration for the effort and determination on this one


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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2015, 08:58:38 PM »
I ended up just putting Osram 65-watt Rallye H7 bulbs in both sides.  I lowered the high beam and raised the low beam until they were about even, and I'm going to leave them both on all the time unless somebody flashes me.
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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2015, 11:47:10 PM »
Hi all,

I've been following this thread with great interest but would like to pick up on something that's been overlooked..if you look carefully at the reflectors in the headlamps you can can see that there is indeed a difference between left and right.
Look closely at the vertical lines at the back of the reflectors and you will note that they differ in the spacing between the lines..which to my mind means they will have a different angle thus changing the beam pattern for high and low beams :notsure:

I would think this is more probable than different bulb angles...

Just an observation :027: :027:

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Re: 2015 Versys 1000 LT Headlight Modification
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2015, 01:23:32 PM »
Yes, you are correct JT. Whether there is a bulb angle difference present, it was the corrupted illumination patterns of the dual filament bulbs as caused by the reflector designs that rendered the mod a bust.

 



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