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Online Claude

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Old motorcycles
on: May 28, 2020, 02:57:02 PM
Now that I am retired, I am thinking at "entering" in a hobby that I thought about for many years; buying & renewing old motorcycles. I just bought a house that have a "dream garage" which will allows the needed floor space.

I am thinking at 1970-1985 japanese models (particularly UJMs).
Many of those came with features I never had which are wire wheels + points & condensers.

WIRE WHEELS
In fact, my second bike (1974 H1E) had wire wheels but I swapped them for Melber mags not long after buying it so I ignore the maintenance chores.
Questions: Are those wheels trouble free? Does the spokes need to be tighten on a regular basis?

POINTS & CONDENSERS
Never had a bike with those; even my H1E had CDI ignition. I intend those old bikes to only be occasional rides while the Versys will remain my "principal" bike.
Questions: I know there are some electronic ignition kits available but is this an absolute must? What kind of maintenance is required? At what frequency? Is this reliable?

For those who wonders, some bikes I found and that I could buy are:
1984 KZ1100R (Canada only; not in the US; sorry US guys  :38:   :001:)
1978 Z1R (not TC)
1976 CB 400F
1976 Goldwing
1978 KZ650

Also a 1982 GPZ1100 (EFI) taht is said to be "brand new", in showroom condition. An exposition winner. But I prefer the KZ1100R (which also have carbs).
Last Edit: May 28, 2020, 03:58:22 PM by Claude

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #1 on: May 28, 2020, 03:00:28 PM
For those who wonders about the 1984 Canadian KZ1100R, here's a pic of the sales brochure:


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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #2 on: May 28, 2020, 03:44:54 PM
we had them over here too, known as the Eddie lawson replica and in green , my mate had one, very nice, basiccly a gpz1100B2 ,,i had the gpz1100B1 with the big square clocks and no fairing,, all very nice  :031: :031:

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #3 on: May 28, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
I've restored a few of these over the years, this one I've still got and it's a keeper. I've always fitted dyna s Ignition  to them , simple to fit and much more reliable,  its basically fit and forget.
I've not restored anything for a few years now but I'm thinking about something else but it will have to be maybe a single cylinder trail bike or maybe a twin,  basically something I can lift the engine in and out on my own.



If you get something, make sure all the parts you need are available,  z1 z1r etc are good,  zpower do plenty of parts and phil is very helpfull,  its also good to join the owners club. , buy the most complete bike you can so you know what parts are what etc, they can always be refurbished rather than struggling to get the correct part new.
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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #4 on: May 28, 2020, 05:06:20 PM
That is a beautiful bike  Floydsz1

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 05:21:11 PM
peter,i don't blame you for never selling that,there is only a few bikes at nearly 50 yrs old that stand the test of time and still look as gorgeous styling wise now as the day it was made.

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #6 on: May 28, 2020, 05:30:19 PM
Thank you guys  :152:

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #7 on: May 28, 2020, 05:33:12 PM
Claude,  theres z1enterprises in New York that can get virtually anything for a zed 1 or z650.

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #8 on: May 28, 2020, 07:34:55 PM
I've owned (and still own) quite a few Honda four - cylinders from the 1970's. All run on the standard points/condenser set - up, I usually replace the complete timing plate (with points/condensers fitted) for a new item from David Silver or CMSNL when I first buy the bike and, over many years (probably 20 or more) I have never needed to replace either the points or condensers again.

I have heard that there can be problems with the impedance of coils for many electronic replacement systems, as well as issues with plug caps (resistor type or otherwise) not suiting the new system, so I am inclined to leave well alone.

I've only ever replaced spokes for cosmetic reasons, never heard of loosening, either more recently or back in the 70's.

In my view, the main thing is to appraise the prospective purchase carefully, especially for originality. Not only will an incorrect to spec bike lose lots of money, in many cases components (especially engine internals such as camshaft oil feed jets and similar) are simply not compatible between models of the same bike!

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Re: Old motorcycles
Reply #9 on: May 28, 2020, 11:51:15 PM
I am in  :002: I have had this Z1 since 1974, not stock but over the years things change and the motorcycle grows with you , just got back from a ride today and these old bikes are still alot of fun to ride. I also have a 1998 Bandit 12 ,I am working on 22 years old should be a fun bike when i am done .

   


Last Edit: May 28, 2020, 11:53:03 PM by Keener

 



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