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  • Offline Claude   ca

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    Looking for a smaller bike
    on: September 09, 2021, 12:50:35 am
    September 09, 2021, 12:50:35 am
    I love my Versys 1000 and intend to keep it for a long time.
    However, next summer, my wife and I are thinking at a vacation trip in a rented RV. And, instead of towing a small car (that we don't have), we would prefer to bring with us a small bike that would be used for small rides around the VR it will be "parked".
    The bike won't get trailered but will have it's own support at the back of the VR. So, I need a small bike as I want it to be as light as possible to not overload the support (and the VR...).
    So, less than 400 lbs is a must and, ideally, less than 350 lbs.
    Any kind of passenger backrest is also a must (thinking at a small top case with a cushion).
    I also prefer the reliability (and proximity of dealers) of japanese products.
    Out of question are scooters and customs; I don't like them and too heavy anyway.

    Here are some thoughts I had:
    KLR 650: too heavy
    BMW 650 mono: possibly too expensive and not japanese
    Versys 300: maybe
    DR-Z400: not sure
    FZ07: Nice but quite close to 400 lbs
    Suzuki TU250: ? ? ?
    Others?

    Anyway, any ideas here guys please?
    Thanks!

    In the end, I think a mono cylinder is maybe the best choice but who knows...
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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #1 on: September 09, 2021, 06:56:59 am
    September 09, 2021, 06:56:59 am
    I've been thinking the same, the suzuki drz400 is on my list, but for you riding 2 up it might not be comfy. Here in the uk anything over 40 years of age are tax and mot exempt so I've also been looking at classic Japanese bikes, for example honda cl350 kawasaki z400 (twin cylinder). Not sure of the weight but are perfectly OK for days out etc.
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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #2 on: September 09, 2021, 08:03:11 am
    September 09, 2021, 08:03:11 am
    Hi Claude,
    Why do you exclude small scooters? I see lot of people with scooters on board of VRs. They can be surprising for performance and practicality.
    For example, an SH150 seems to meet perfectly your needs: Honda reliability, good comfort for pillion, lot of space in topbox and under the seat, weight under 300 lbs.
    I don't know if Honda scooters are sold in Canada, but also Yamaha and Suzuki make good scooters.


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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #3 on: September 09, 2021, 09:06:42 am
    September 09, 2021, 09:06:42 am
    I've never had a scooter, but it sounds like it would be perfect for your needs.  The scooters from the  big Japanese companies are pricey so I'm thinking a 3-4 year old used one should be perfect.

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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #4 on: September 09, 2021, 09:52:29 am
    September 09, 2021, 09:52:29 am
    I use a Forza 125 scoot to get around in London, great little thing, far better than using my main bike when in the city. Many bikers poo poo the idea of a scoot but the modern ones can be great fun.

    Weighs around 350lb and you can get after-market backrests so something like that would fit the bill IMO. Depends how much you want to spend I guess.

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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #5 on: September 09, 2021, 12:00:07 pm
    September 09, 2021, 12:00:07 pm
    Ossa 250 explorer maybe ?

    Good used ones are available ... nice and light plus they would be a good 'fun' bike    :169: 


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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #6 on: September 09, 2021, 05:17:00 pm
    September 09, 2021, 05:17:00 pm
    Why not the Himalayan Royal Enfield (199 kg 438 lbs)? Have a look on youtube and search "le nez dans le guidon" or GS VINTAGE and you will have all the potential of the bike with an amazing view of our Provence too.
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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #7 on: September 09, 2021, 05:40:46 pm
    September 09, 2021, 05:40:46 pm
    *Originally Posted by Floydsz1 [+]
    I've been thinking the same, the suzuki drz400 is on my list, but for you riding 2 up it might not be comfy. Here in the uk anything over 40 years of age are tax and mot exempt so I've also been looking at classic Japanese bikes, for example honda cl350 kawasaki z400 (twin cylinder). Not sure of the weight but are perfectly OK for days out etc.
    I also see the DRZ as a one-up bike so not sire at all.
    I forgot to write that I want something reliable so it would need to be relatively recent (something like 2010+).
    Old bikes are cool but not really reliable (look at my signature; I know it the hard way).
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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #8 on: September 09, 2021, 05:43:00 pm
    September 09, 2021, 05:43:00 pm
    *Originally Posted by Vespista1960 [+]
    Hi Claude,
    Why do you exclude small scooters? I see lot of people with scooters on board of VRs. They can be surprising for performance and practicality.
    For example, an SH150 seems to meet perfectly your needs: Honda reliability, good comfort for pillion, lot of space in topbox and under the seat, weight under 300 lbs.
    I don't know if Honda scooters are sold in Canada, but also Yamaha and Suzuki make good scooters.
    You're right. When I ruled out scooters, I was thinking that they were all Burgman 400/600 which are overweight.
    I looked around and Honda 125/150 could be a very acceptable compromise for a low weight. I will dig deeper in that direction.
    Thanks!
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    Re: Looking for a smaller bike
    Reply #9 on: September 09, 2021, 05:44:14 pm
    September 09, 2021, 05:44:14 pm
    *Originally Posted by francis83 [+]
    Why not the Himalayan Royal Enfield (199 kg 438 lbs)? Have a look on youtube and search "le nez dans le guidon" or GS VINTAGE and you will have all the potential of the bike with an amazing view of our Provence too.
    Well, if you ask, it's because they are not japanese and are more than 400 lbs; both criterias I want to meet.
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