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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #20 on: August 08, 2022, 04:25:51 pm
    August 08, 2022, 04:25:51 pm
    *Originally Posted by Floydsz1 [+]
    Yes but I don't think they give out as much information as a car, you can get a fault code up on the dash but it's really only if a sensor has failed etc, if it's a component that's failed like a gear  or similar it won't show that.

    Thanks for that!  :002: Was just curious as they're still baffled by what's making the noise  :187:
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #21 on: August 12, 2022, 07:58:28 pm
    August 12, 2022, 07:58:28 pm
    Well, the saga continues.

    The garage is still unsure what is causing the noise.

    But.......have now advised me that as my local garage used a generic oil filter & not a Kawasaki one, it is unlikely the warranty will cover it. The local garage are of course disputing this.

    &, of course, both garages are saying the onus is on me.  :761:

    I'm at my wits end & have no idea what to do.

    Would love to be able to tell you what was wrong, but we're someway from that point unfortunately!  :lostit:

    No reply at all yet from Kawasaki Europe......
    Last Edit: August 12, 2022, 08:00:36 pm by SidLawrence
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #22 on: August 12, 2022, 09:44:58 pm
    August 12, 2022, 09:44:58 pm
    It'll be easy to tell what make the oil filter is.
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #23 on: August 12, 2022, 09:58:54 pm
    August 12, 2022, 09:58:54 pm
    *Originally Posted by Floydsz1 [+]
    It'll be easy to tell what make the oil filter is.

    Agreed, but they've simply stated it's 'not' a Kawasaki oil filter & therefore any warranty involving the engine is void.

    I'm at a complete loss
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #24 on: August 13, 2022, 06:30:56 am
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    What have they done with the oil filter
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #25 on: August 13, 2022, 11:08:11 am
    August 13, 2022, 11:08:11 am
    *Originally Posted by Floydsz1 [+]
    What have they done with the oil filter

    The honest answer is I don't know. But your question has made me realise I should have made sure they kept it  :006:


    *Just off the phone to them & will follow up in writing. They are keeping everything, including an oil sample. Thanks for putting that in my head! Extremely grateful  :763:
    Last Edit: August 13, 2022, 11:36:37 am by SidLawrence
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #26 on: August 13, 2022, 04:06:04 pm
    August 13, 2022, 04:06:04 pm
    I can't imagine that conclusive proof that the engine  rattle is as a direct result of an aftermarket oil filter....

    I'm assuming that the oil used in the service was correct for the bike and met  kawasaki stipulated grade.
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #27 on: August 13, 2022, 07:08:05 pm
    August 13, 2022, 07:08:05 pm
    *Originally Posted by TYKE [+]
    I can't imagine that conclusive proof that the engine  rattle is as a direct result of an aftermarket oil filter....

    I'm assuming that the oil used in the service was correct for the bike and met  kawasaki stipulated grade.

    I'd completely agree with regard to the filter! & according to my research the garage has to prove that the filter is at fault to void a warranty claim, so I'm desperately hoping the warranty will stand.

    I don't know reference the oil, but I certainly hope so. The garage that serviced it have never let me down before, so I'd have to assume the service was done correctly  :187:

    Unfortunately, until they manage to identify the fault I'm at a loss & without a bike!  :151:
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #28 on: August 14, 2022, 03:46:51 am
    August 14, 2022, 03:46:51 am
    *Originally Posted by SidLawrence [+]
    Unfortunately you're spot on!

    The clutch has no impact on the sound, it only goes when the engine is under load.

    My mechanical prowess is limited, but the only thing that makes sense to me is slack in the cam chain. If something that integral to the engine doing its thing has gone at just over 2000kms, I'll be seriously gutted. Especially as I followed run-in to the letter & still haven't seen the top side of 8000rpm.
    That said, I'm probably massively wide of the mark. I seriously hope I am anyway  :027:

    The cam chain seems like a good shout.

    Has this been inspected and ruled out has the cam cover been taken off?. Taking the tensioner off is really easy for a quick shuftie. Taking to cam cover off is time consuming but still straight forward when each step is isolated.

    If you feel not up to that then maybe your local dealer will work with you so that you strip as much off the bike as you  can to save on labour costs and have him do the rest.

    Request your Kawasaki dealer do the work 1st and if they refuse tell them that any costs involved in having the work done independantly will be recovered from them.

    TB

    PS if it is cam chain related then I think it will either be the tensioner not tensioning properly or maybe the top chain guide come loose. Nothing terminal.

    Last Edit: August 14, 2022, 03:49:50 am by Topbox
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    Re: Engine Rattle
    Reply #29 on: August 14, 2022, 08:05:00 am
    August 14, 2022, 08:05:00 am
    *Originally Posted by Topbox [+]
    The cam chain seems like a good shout.

    Has this been inspected and ruled out has the cam cover been taken off?. Taking the tensioner off is really easy for a quick shuftie. Taking to cam cover off is time consuming but still straight forward when each step is isolated.

    If you feel not up to that then maybe your local dealer will work with you so that you strip as much off the bike as you  can to save on labour costs and have him do the rest.

    Request your Kawasaki dealer do the work 1st and if they refuse tell them that any costs involved in having the work done independantly will be recovered from them.

    TB

    PS if it is cam chain related then I think it will either be the tensioner not tensioning properly or maybe the top chain guide come loose. Nothing terminal.

    Thanks for the info!

    The latest update is that the filter 'may' have a part to play. However, my dealer has stated work continues & if the fault is not related, the warranty will stand. (So that's a relief)

    The cam chain tensioner has already been ruled out, as has the clutch basket. The dealer is stripping the engine, so hopefully they'll find the fault soon.
    I've requested they retain the filter, oil, parts & any electronic downloads that may be applicable. (The legal advise I received was to ask for those.) I've also requested an engineers report IF the warranty will not be upheld.

    Fingers crossed the warranty stands & the bike is fixed. We're over 2 weeks in, I'm in a hire car & the proud owner of a 19,500 paper weight  :012: I want my bike back  :173:
    & now for my next midlife crisis....

     


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